
The dealer counter photograph that broke first, days before SIG said anything. The slide is stamped P385 and an enclosed emitter SIG optic sits behind it. Photo: Frog Bones Family Shooting Center.
Nobody can ship you a P385 yet.
On October 12, 2026, SIG's site and every store that sends us a P385 listing still read coming soon, preorder or notify me. The CARRY is $599.99 at almost every store and the COMP is $749.99, but no store has a gun on the shelf.
Below: when it ships, where to order one, what each model costs, the specs SIG has now published, and what fits it.
Announced by SIG at SIG NEXT, September 22, 2026. Prices and stock checked at sigsauer.com and four retailers, October 12.
| Metric | Value |
|---|---|
| Street price | $599.99 |
| In stock | None |
| Magazines | P320 |
| Optics | RMR, DPP |
When is the SIG P385 release date?
SIG announced the P385 at SIG NEXT on September 22, 2026. Dealers started taking orders within days, but deliveries haven't started. As of October 12, SIG's own product pages still mark the CARRY, COMP, FULL, COMPACT and MACH3D as coming soon.
The CARRY and COMP are first in line. Every store we track lists both, and Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore is taking preorders on them now. The FULL and COMPACT have product pages at SIG. Bauer Precision now lists both, and the MACH3D, out of stock. SIG's launch material put the MACH3D at the end of 2026.
Nobody on SIGtalk or AR15.com has reported a delivery through October 12. Dealer estimates run from late October to the end of the year. Luttrell Performance Shooting expects its first guns around October 23, and KYGUNCO told a SIGtalk member to expect guns in 60 to 90 days. SIG hasn't given a ship date.
Where to buy a P385
Four stores that send us their product feeds list the P385 today. None has one in stock, so a click gets you a preorder or a restock alert.
| Store | What they list | Price | Status on Oct 12 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore | CARRY, CARRY with safety, COMP | $599.99 and $749.99 | Preorder |
| Primary Arms | CARRY and COMP in black or coyote, safety models, ROMEO-X bundles | $599.99 to $1,249.99 | Coming soon, email alert |
| KYGUNCO | CARRY and COMP, 10 round and MA compliant models, SIG-LOC bundles | $599.99 to $1,249.99 | Preorder on bundles, get notified on the rest |
| BattleHawk Armory | COMP with safety, 10 round | $749.99 | Out of stock |
These four stores sit at the same street price. Nobody's discounting a gun they can't ship, but GrabAGun lists the CARRY at $649.99.
When the first P385 lands in stock, it'll show up on our product pages with every merchant side by side. Until then, a preorder at a store you trust is the fastest route. Your local SIG dealer may get an allocation before the online stores do. Frog Bones had one on the counter before SIG announced anything.
How much does the P385 cost?
The CARRY costs $599.99 at every store we checked, against a $679.99 MSRP printed on retailer listings. The COMP costs $749.99, and BattleHawk shows its MSRP as $829.99.
| Model | MSRP | Street | Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| CARRY | $679.99 | $599.99 | Preorder |
| COMP | $829.99 | $749.99 | Preorder |
| CARRY + ROMEO-X SIG-LOC PRO | n/a | $1,099.99 | Preorder |
| COMP + ROMEO-X SIG-LOC PRO | $1,379.99 | $1,249.99 | Preorder |
| FULL | not priced | n/a | Coming soon |
| COMPACT | not priced | n/a | Coming soon |
| MACH3D | not priced | n/a | End of 2026 |
A manual thumb safety doesn't change the price. Neither does the 10 round version for Massachusetts and other capped states.
The optic bundles cost $500 more than the bare gun. SIG sells the ROMEO-X SIG-LOC PRO on its own for $579.99, so the bundle saves you about $80 if you were going to buy that sight anyway.
The five P385 models
The P385 is built around an all new fire control unit, designed for this platform rather than carried over from the P320 or the P365. SIG pairs it with the Trigger Block, a patented flush faced trigger, and drops it into a grip module that takes interchangeable MagStraps.
Controls are fully ambidextrous. Every model is 9mm, and SIG says no other calibers are planned "at this time."
| Model | Barrel | Length | Height | Weight | Mags |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| CARRY | 4.0 in | 7.22 in | 5.64 in | 28.94 oz | 17 + 21 |
| COMP | 4.0 in, integral comp | 7.9 in | 5.64 in | 29.12 oz | 17 + two 21 |
| FULL | 4.7 in | 7.92 in | 5.64 in | 29.6 oz | 17 + 21 |
| COMPACT | 4.0 in, short grip | n/a | n/a | n/a | two 15 |
| MACH3D | 3.9 in, MACH3D comp | 7.87 in | 5.64 in | 30.56 oz | 17 + two 21 |
The CARRY, COMP and FULL are 1.32 inches wide and the MACH3D is 1.45, and the weights include an empty magazine. The FULL's and MACH3D's numbers are new since our last update. SIG's COMPACT spec table contradicts its own 4 inch barrel and 15 round magazines, so we've left the COMPACT blank until SIG fixes it.
We had the MACH3D on a 3.4 inch barrel before. SIG's own page now says 4 inches in its feature list and 3.9 inches in its spec table, so we've gone with SIG's measured 3.9.
SIG also published the fit numbers people kept asking about. Trigger reach is about 2.9 inches. Grip circumference runs 1.95 inches with the small MagStrap, 2.15 with the medium and 2.25 with the large. The MagStrap also sets grip length, from the full 17 round grip down to a flush 15 round grip.
The FCU is the serialized part. Every model comes in black or coyote, with or without a manual thumb safety. SIG says state compliant versions are planned. Its own site already lists 10 round versions of every model and California versions of the COMPACT and MACH3D, and KYGUNCO lists 10 round Massachusetts compliant CARRY and COMP models.
SIG credits the low bore axis and its new Recoil Dampening System in the grip with cutting muzzle rise by 20% or more, depending on the model. It says the MACH3D comp takes that past 30%. Nobody independent has put a timer on either claim yet.
P385 vs P365 vs P320: how big is it?
The P385 is a P320 sized duty gun. If you were hoping for a bigger P365, look at the numbers first.
Tap a gun to lay it over the P385. We drew every outline to one scale from the published length and height.
P385 CARRY and FULL vs P365-XMACRO, P320 Full and Glock 19
Side profiles to scale. Weights with an empty magazine. SIG figures from sigsauer.com, checked October 3, 2026; Glock 19 from Glock's spec page.
One square is one inch. Aligned at the slide rear and sight top, the way the guns sit in your hand.
| Pistol | Length (in) | Slide (in) | Height (in) | Width (in) | Weight (oz) | Barrel (in) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| P385-CARRY | 7.22 | 5.64 | 1.32 | 28.94 | 4 | |
| P385-FULL | 7.92 | 5.64 | 1.32 | 29.6 | 4.7 | |
| P365-XMACRO | 6.6 | 5.2 | 1.1 | 21.5 | 3.1 | |
| P320 FULL | 8 | 5.5 | 1.4 | 29.5 | 4.7 | |
| Glock 19 | 7.28 | 6.85 | 5.04 | 1.34 | 23.63 | 4.02 |
Against the P365-XMACRO, the CARRY is six tenths of an inch longer, almost half an inch taller and a fifth of an inch wider. It weighs 29 ounces to the XMACRO's 21.5. A Glock 19 is within a tenth of an inch of the CARRY's length, but it's six tenths of an inch shorter in height and five ounces lighter.
The FULL is a hair shorter than the original P320 Nitron Full Size, a little narrower, and the same weight within a tenth of an ounce. If you own a P320 and like it, the FULL is the one to handle. If you carry a P365 and want more gun, wait for the COMPACT's numbers.
What optics fit the P385?
Any RMR or DPP footprint optic mounts straight to the slide. SIG's P385 FAQ says the SIG-LOC PRO cut "provides direct-mount compatibility with popular optic footprints, including RMR and DPP, without requiring an additional adapter plate."
We told you something broader on September 24. We read a line on SIG's ROMEO-X page, that SIG-LOC slides still take "traditional top-mount reflex sights," and said any optic on a published footprint would go on. SIG has now named the footprints. For anything else, an ACRO, an EPS Carry or an MPS included, wait until SIG or the optic maker lists a plate.
The restriction also runs the other way. A ROMEO-X SIG-LOC PRO is built only for SIG-LOC PRO slides, so it won't move to a conventionally cut pistol you already own.

Schematic. SIG-LOC drives its fasteners up from under the slide. That geometry is what buys the five points of contact, and the slide still accepts a top mounted sight on the RMR or DPP footprint.
SIG-LOC buys you lockup. You get five points of contact between slide and optic instead of two screws through the top, a lower deck height, and a longer focal length that flattens parallax. You only get it with a SIG-LOC optic.
RMR and DPP optics that fit with no plate
If you'd rather keep the money, these three footprints SIG named go straight on. The Trijicon RMR and Holosun 507C use the RMR pattern, and the DeltaPoint Pro is the DPP.
We price every card on this page from the best in stock offer at each merchant, and we reprice them nightly.
What else fits the P385
Magazines
Standard P320 magazines work, and that's the cheapest reason to pick this gun over a clean sheet platform. If you run a P320, you've got a magazine stash on day one.
One catch. The oldest P320 magazines, the ones with a round base pad, won't seat with the P385's metal magwell in place. SIG's answer is to take the magwell off. On AR15.com, the advice is to swap the base plate instead.
Holsters
Your P320 holster won't fit. Neither will a P365 holster. SIG says so directly, and the P385's slide and frame are their own shape.
SIG names Safariland, ANR and BlackPoint among the first holster makers. Safariland lists the Incog X as available now and has the 6360RDS and 6390RDSO duty holsters, the Solis and a Ballast light bearing holster coming. Buy a retention holster last, once your exact model and light combination is listed.
Lights
A light clamps to an accessory rail, not to the model, so the P385's M1913 rail takes the lights already on the shelf.
Sights, magwells and barrels
SIG says P series dovetail iron sights fit, and so does the P320 AXG magwell. Every other part is specific to the P385. P320 barrels don't fit, according to a SIG trainer posting on AR15.com. SIG lists no threaded barrel. SilencerCo says the MACH3D's comp screws onto a 1/2x28 thread, and it expects threaded barrels in 2027.
What people who've shot it say
Nobody outside the industry owns one yet. The only people who've shot a P385 got a gun at SIG NEXT, at a SIG Experience Center, at a SIG demo day, or from a manufacturer. Here's what they reported.
The people who've fired it
The best firsthand report comes from nhracecraft on SIGforum, who lives near the SIG Experience Center. He went in on September 23, field stripped a CARRY and shot it. He said the break "feels similar to the P320 Legion" and called the reset very positive. In the hand he compared it to a P365 Legion, with a slide noticeably narrower than a P320's.
He also confirmed the modularity works the way SIG says. A FULL upper goes on a COMPACT grip, and so does the MACH3D upper. The CARRY and FULL grips won't take the 15 round COMPACT magazine.
Thomas Higginbotham at Safariland put a couple of hundred rounds through early guns. He put the trigger at about 7 pounds and said the MACH3D shot very flat. He thought the COMPACT handled more like an XMACRO.
A member of SIG's training team, dbaird, has been answering questions on AR15.com. Weigh it accordingly, since he works for SIG. He says SIG's academy instructors tested the guns through development and the grip went through more than 200 versions. He rates the trigger above every P365 he's shot.

The MAGSTRAP grip module and flared magwell. The seam where the strap meets the frame is the most argued over detail in the photos. Photo: Frog Bones Family Shooting Center.
What the forums keep saying
We read the P385 threads on SIGtalk, SIGforum, AR15.com, the 1911 Forum and CalGuns between September 22 and 26. SIGtalk's main thread passed 300 posts by October 3.
It's the P320 without the name. This comes up on every board, usually unkindly. One AR15.com member called it "the quiet replacement for the cursed 320." A lot of owners want a trade in program. Others point out that a trade in would hand plaintiffs an argument.
It's a bigger P365. Mike H in WA, who read the XRAY5 off the blurred teaser the week before, called it "an upscaled P365" on launch night. Several members who already own an XMACRO couldn't see a reason to buy one.
The price is fair. Almost nobody complained. $599 landed well below what the forums had guessed before launch.
The Trigger Block looks clever. Most posts on the flush trigger safety are curious or positive. The sharpest reply came from a SIGforum member pointing out that SIG once argued a trigger safety was unnecessary on the P320.
The case against it
The best skeptical post runs on the spec sheet. A SIGforum member worked out that the CARRY is no lighter than a P320 XCARRY and almost 6 ounces heavier than a Glock 45. His summary: "Pretty much the same gun without the proven track record."
Others want to see a second generation before they buy. Some won't buy SIG at all after the P320, including a SIGforum member with 15 years and 150,000 rounds on SIG duty guns. At a SIG demo day in Raleigh in early October, an AR15.com member said a plastic shelf under the slide release made it hard to lock the slide back. SilencerCo's writer rode that lever and dropped the slide twice at SIG NEXT.
Does the P385 replace the P320?
SIG answers this one in its own P385 FAQ. Asked whether it launched the P385 because of the P320's problems, SIG says no. It says the P385 "has been in development for years." It also says the P320, M17 and M18 stay on sale, and that the Trigger Block isn't coming to the P320 or P365 for now.
The context everyone reads into it is the litigation. SIG is still defending the P320's fire control design in court, and the P385 ships with an entirely new FCU and a trigger safety blade that sits flush in the shoe. SIG hasn't connected those two things in public.
How the leak did
We ran this page for a week on documents and dealer photographs before SIG said a word. We got the magazines right, and Mike H in WA read the XRAY5 off a blurred teaser. We called it a scaled up duty gun rather than a small carry pistol, and SIG's own hidden prelaunch text named the P385 as a SIG-LOC PRO host.
We got the optic question wrong twice: first by warning your optic wouldn't fit, then by saying any footprint would. SIG's FAQ now settles it at RMR and DPP. The retailer whiteboard said LAUNCH 9/24, and SIG revealed on the 22nd.
How the P385 Became Public
Every dated step, and who it came from
- Dec 21, 2025Public recordSIG files the P385 trademark
Serial 99559632, covering firearms, magazines, sights, grips, holsters and cases.
- Feb 4, 2026Public recordA second name, P265, is filed
Serial 99634307. It drew a notice of allowance on September 1, 2026.
- Mar 16, 2026CommunityThe forums find the filing
Spotted on the 1911 Forum, carried to SIG Talk the same day under the title Replacement for P320???
- Jul 14, 2026Public recordP385 publishes for opposition
Nobody opposes it.
- Sep 8, 2026Public recordNotice of allowance issues
SIG now has until March 8, 2027 to show the mark in commercial use or ask for more time.
- Sep 14, 2026CommunityThe retail whiteboard photo goes public
Posted to Instagram by the competitive shooter FocusTripp. A promotions board whose first line reads Sig P385 LAUNCH 9/24, alongside ordinary MAP windows for Sig, Leupold, EOTech and Vortex.
- Sep 18, 2026First partyA countdown appears on sigsauer.com
A blurred pistol wearing an optic and a light, COMING SOON 09.23.26, and a SIG NEXT badge. Posted to SIG's Facebook page the same day.
- Sep 2026First partySIG names the P385 itself
Hidden text inside SIG's own prelaunch material for the XRAY5 optic lists the P385 as a SIG-LOC PRO host.
- Sep 22, 2026First partySIG unveils the P385 at SIG NEXT
Five 9mm models from 599 dollars, an all new fire control unit, standard P320 magazines and a SIG-LOC cut on every slide.
- Sep 23, 2026CommunityFirst firsthand reports
Media range day. A SIGforum member shoots a CARRY at the SIG Experience Center and posts the first owner style report.
- Sep 26, 2026First partyCARRY and COMP go on order
Dealers list the CARRY at $599.99 and the COMP at $749.99, mostly as preorders. Nobody on the forums reports buying one yet.
- Oct 3, 2026First partyFull specs, still no guns
SIG's pages now carry dimensions for the CARRY, COMP and FULL and name RMR and DPP as direct mount footprints. All five models still read coming soon, and four retailers list it with nothing in stock.
- End of 2026First partyMACH3D
The last of the five, per SIG's launch material. The FULL and COMPACT carry no date beyond coming soon.
| Date | Event | Source |
|---|---|---|
| Dec 21, 2025 | SIG files the P385 trademark | record |
| Feb 4, 2026 | A second name, P265, is filed | record |
| Mar 16, 2026 | The forums find the filing | community |
| Jul 14, 2026 | P385 publishes for opposition | record |
| Sep 8, 2026 | Notice of allowance issues | record |
| Sep 14, 2026 | The retail whiteboard photo goes public | community |
| Sep 18, 2026 | A countdown appears on sigsauer.com | official |
| Sep 2026 | SIG names the P385 itself | official |
| Sep 22, 2026 | SIG unveils the P385 at SIG NEXT | official |
| Sep 23, 2026 | First firsthand reports | community |
| Sep 26, 2026 | CARRY and COMP go on order | official |
| Oct 3, 2026 | Full specs, still no guns | official |
| End of 2026 | MACH3D | official |
What's still unknown
A ship date. Prices for the FULL, the COMPACT and the MACH3D. Reliable dimensions for the COMPACT. A trigger pull weight. Which state compliant models arrive, and when. A threaded barrel. And whether any department adopts it.
We'll update this page as each of those lands.
Related reading
If you're tracking what else lands this year, our upcoming firearm releases for 2026 covers the rest of the calendar. SIG's new optic for this slide gets its own page in the XRAY5 digital zero explained, and what Holosun is actually shipping runs a confirmed versus rumored split across the optics side.
Filed underMagazines/Holsters/Optics/Lights/Explainer
FAQ
Frequently asked questions
When is the SIG P385 release date?
- SIG hasn't announced one. It unveiled the P385 on September 22, 2026, but no store had one in stock as of October 12. SIG's own site lists all five models as coming soon, Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore takes CARRY and COMP preorders, KYGUNCO takes preorders on the optic bundles, and Primary Arms and BattleHawk Armory list them out of stock. One dealer expects stock around October 23, and the MACH3D is due at the end of 2026.
Where can I buy a SIG P385?
- Four stores we track list it: Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore (preorder), Primary Arms (coming soon, email alert), KYGUNCO (preorder on the optic bundles, get notified on the rest) and BattleHawk Armory (out of stock). All of them price the CARRY at $599.99 and the COMP at $749.99. Your local SIG dealer may get an allocation before the online stores do.
How much does the SIG P385 cost?
- The P385-CARRY sells for $599.99 against a retail MSRP of $679.99. The P385-COMP sells for $749.99 against an $829.99 MSRP. Bundles with a ROMEO-X SIG-LOC PRO run $1,099.99 for the CARRY and $1,249.99 for the COMP. SIG hasn't priced the FULL, COMPACT or MACH3D. A manual safety doesn't change the price.
What P385 models are there?
- Five, all 9mm. The CARRY has a 4 inch barrel and is 7.22 inches long. The COMP has a 4 inch barrel in an integrally compensated slide and is 7.9 inches long. The FULL has a 4.7 inch barrel and is 7.92 inches long. The COMPACT has a 4 inch barrel on a shorter 15 round grip, and the MACH3D has a 3.9 inch barrel with the MACH3D compensator and is 7.87 inches long and 1.45 wide in SIG's spec table. SIG hasn't published reliable dimensions for the COMPACT.
Is the P385 bigger than a P365?
- Yes, by a lot. The P385-CARRY is 7.22 inches long, 5.64 tall, 1.32 wide and 28.94 ounces with an empty magazine. A P365-XMACRO is 6.6 long, 5.2 tall, 1.1 wide and 21.5 ounces. The P385 is much closer to a full size P320.
Does the SIG P385 take P320 magazines?
- Yes. Standard P320 magazines work. The COMPACT ships with two 15 round magazines and the other models with a 17 and one or two 21 round magazines. SIG says original P320 magazines with a round base pad need the P385's metal magwell removed.
Do P320 or P365 holsters fit the P385?
- No. SIG says the P385 isn't compatible with P320 or P365 holsters. Safariland, ANR and BlackPoint are among the first makers with P385 holsters, and Safariland lists the Incog X as available now.
What optic fits the SIG P385?
- Any RMR or DPP footprint optic mounts directly to the P385's SIG-LOC PRO cut with no adapter plate, according to SIG's P385 FAQ. That covers sights like the Trijicon RMR, the Holosun 507C and the Leupold DeltaPoint Pro. SIG-LOC optics such as the ROMEO-X SIG-LOC PRO also fit, but they're built only for SIG-LOC PRO slides and won't move to a conventionally cut pistol.
Does the P385 take P320 barrels?
- No, according to a member of SIG's training team posting on AR15.com. SIG lists no threaded barrel yet, and SilencerCo expects one in 2027. SIG's FAQ says only P320 magazines, the P320 AXG magwell and P series dovetail sights carry over.
What is the P385 grip size and trigger reach?
- SIG lists trigger reach at about 2.9 inches. Grip circumference is 1.95 inches with the small MagStrap, 2.15 with the medium and 2.25 with the large. The MagStrap also changes grip length, from a full 17 round grip to a flush 15 round grip.
Is there a state compliant SIG P385?
- SIG says state compliant P385 models are planned. KYGUNCO already lists 10 round Massachusetts compliant CARRY and COMP versions. SIG's own site lists California versions of the COMPACT and MACH3D, but SIG hasn't said anything about California's handgun roster.
What is SIG-LOC and is it worth it?
- SIG-LOC mounts the optic from underneath the slide rather than through the top, creating five points of contact instead of two screws. SIG's case for it is zero retention under recoil and impact, a lower deck height for iron sight co-witness, and a longer focal length that reduces parallax. You only get it with a SIG-LOC optic, since the slide also takes RMR and DPP footprint sights.
Does the P385 replace the SIG P320?
- SIG says no. Its P385 FAQ says the P385 has been in development for years and wasn't launched because of the P320's problems, and that the P320, M17 and M18 stay on sale. SIG also says the P385's Trigger Block isn't coming to the P320 or P365 at this time.
Does the P385 actually shoot flatter?
- Nobody independent has measured it yet. SIG says the low bore axis and its new Recoil Dampening System cut muzzle rise by 20% or more depending on the model, and that the MACH3D compensator takes that past 30%. Those are manufacturer figures.
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